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Callicles, aiming only at our pleasure, and caring for naught else ?Callicles
It does seem so to me.Socrates
And so too with all similar pursuits, such as harp-playing in the contests?Callicles
Yes.Socrates
And what of choral productions and dithyrambic compositions? Are they not manifestly, in your view, of the same kind? Or do you suppose Cinesias,1 son of Meles, cares a jot about trying to say things of a sort that might be improving to his audience,
It does seem so to me.Socrates
And so too with all similar pursuits, such as harp-playing in the contests?Callicles
Yes.Socrates
And what of choral productions and dithyrambic compositions? Are they not manifestly, in your view, of the same kind? Or do you suppose Cinesias,1 son of Meles, cares a jot about trying to say things of a sort that might be improving to his audience,